Response to Adam Conover’s Tweet | Hospitals & Mammograms | Wednesday Checkup

  • Published: 16 May 2019
  • After the last Real Doctor Reacts to Adam Ruins everything there were many questions and critiques of my stances. Also Adam did a great job or replying to my video via twitter (link below) so I thought that this is the best way to continue the conversation. Keep in mind that if you missed the last video you should watch it here:

    Also, please refrain from name calling in the comments section as that doesn’t help you make your point or us to change our minds.

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Comments • 5 873

  • Luke Marriott
    Luke Marriott  8 hours back

    Not talking sides or anything but I think a lot of people misunderstood the situation here so I will clarify it to the best of my understanding, Adam wasn't taking any shots at dr.mike or anything like that he was asked by fans of dr.mike and his own show to criticize dr.mikes reaction video. He did this in a respectful way by not insulting or discrediting dr.mike, now the way adam structured his criticism was not perfect and he did misunderstand some things dr.mike said in his reaction video but regardless he did try his best to criticize or correct things he felt dr.mike was implying or saying but he did still agree with many of dr.mikes points and explained why they had to make the mammogram section so simplified. Finally to be fair in dr.Mike's reaction video mike wasn't clear on some of the things he was saying either (which is fine) and that is probably the thing that Adam got wrong when criticizing dr.mikes video. This Is what I understand at least and if you want to correct me or tell me how to make this comment clearer on the message I was trying to convey please say so.

    • Marqan
      Marqan  20 hours back

      Adam Conover is trying to pull a Cathy Newman.
      "Mike says [misquote]" "Mike claims [misquote]"
      It's really disgusting. Or maybe he's just stupid and actually didn't understand what you said.

      • Colin Rist
        Colin Rist  1 days back

        I definitely feel like this was a well articulated response to the tweets while attempting to remain as unbiased as possible. That alone is a massively difficult thing to do. It also does well that you managed to stay solid on the points and concerns you had without it being in a stubborn, for the sake of debate way. They were logical and well explained, and helped for the sake of clarity throughout the video. I believe Adam was definitely in the right place with responding and keeping this alive, however I believe that he took the good criticism first and mayne a bit too well, and front loaded his tweets with it to illicit a more open reaction to the following statements. While continuing to push the positive criticism throughout, I was disappointed at how little he had to think of the negative, even going so far as to mention having a specialist look at the script and more or less using it as a justifying factor for the way things were presented. This didn't sit well with me, as it seems to willingness to further clarify was left more to you.

        I also wholeheartedly agree that oversimplification can be a dangerous thing, and I think Adam missed that point. While profiteering is an issue, I don't believe that essentially demonizing most hospital costs is a good thing without getting into the heart of it. This is especially important when messages are going out to the public, who may be uneducated on the topic specifically. A response that plays into pre existing bias will be taken on a lot easier by the consumer, however there's also a bit of an issue having bias on an issue that one doesn't fully understand or care to understand. At that point, unnecessary divisions are taking away from the main topic and shifting focus on blame.

        Personal note now: I really want to be a doctor, though as I watch your videos I worry sometimes about if I'm cut for it. In high school I had a major problem accepting negative criticism, much less giving criticism in a meaningful and unbiased way. While I've worked to improve and have a long way to go, I can't help but wonder if I'll ever get to a point where I can give and take it in a productive way while being able to put my pride aside. Hubris sucks, man. While online it's a bit easier to take a step back now and regroup, in a face to face situation I know that reevaluating those immediate reactions can be difficult for me. Any advice?

        • Broxalax
          Broxalax  2 days back

          Adam is retarded and simply misrepresents facts to suit his agenda.

          He hates white people for being capitalist yet capitalises on it.

          • Nick P
            Nick P  2 days back

            Adam is such a pretentious douchebag.

            • Illusion67
              Illusion67  2 days back

              Dr. Mike, just become a lawyer already, I mean you could win with no problem. I literally used this tactic in school, like how he presented and reviewed his information and how he makes it clear. I won the debate easily with this tactic. I wouldn’t suggest using a tactic like Dr. Mike in school and take a big risk to your grade, but if your sure is gonna work VERY well, than go ahead and use it also.

              I was a portion of Dr. Mike that day at school, thank god the teachers didn’t find out that I was copyrighting Dr. Mike type of speech.

              • Maple Hound
                Maple Hound  3 days back

                I know I'm late to the party but here I go anyway.
                I live in Canada which means as long as you have OHIP (Ontario Health Insurance Plan) which makes basically every basic medical and emergency needs are payed for by the government VIA Tax.
                This is good because it means most of us here in Canada will most likely never pay the ridiculous prices doctors have in America.

                At the same time, if your going in for a check up this means that it's first come first serve. Which is not really a bad thing for basic medical needs like a simple check up. Sure it means your going to be stuck in the waiting room for potentially hours if not the entire day, depending on how many people are there. But at the same time you can wait because it's just a health check up, your not dying.

                The issue with OHIP is that medical professionals here aren't payed NEARLY as much as their American counterparts. Which leads a lot of these medical professionals to pack their bags and go to America. Here in Canada an average family doctor such as yourself makes around $230K per year with their American counter parts making around an average of $339K per year.

                • Stormy Chang
                  Stormy Chang  3 days back

                  I don't think you should even give this Adam guy a second thought for his 'criticisms'. His show is there for sensationalism. Whether or not there are any facts in his shows, he's doing it in a television, entertainment-leaning sensationalist delivery. And not to be mean, but stupid people, who believe anything on tv (like an ex friend of mine's mother), would start to freak out and take jokes and sensationalism as real facts. When you present people with themes like "you think you know something, well guess what, here's what's *really* going on", that draws people in to believe in things they typically wouldn't. Because it contradicts 'the system'.

                  • Andrew • 22 years ago

                    This is what I like about DR Mike he explains his comments without sounding defensive unlike Adam

                    • BabaYaga
                      BabaYaga  5 days back

                      Adam's response was passive aggressive, but to be fair your reaction video not only missed some of points he made but also reiterated the same thing but differently.

                      • Skobo Do
                        Skobo Do  6 days back

                        13:45 that's a thing with science generally. People just do not know what science actually is.

                        • Bo Yang
                          Bo Yang  6 days back

                          So basically, the US healthcare system is super inefficient, largely because of the insurance companies 😡

                          • Preston K. Productions

                            Mike, Adam debates to win and I don't think he's interested in discussing things for the sake of learning.
                            He probably watched your entire video with the mindset of "winning". I'm just saying, he might not be as friendly as you think he is. You might see it as a healthy conversation, but he might not share the same mentality. I'm not even saying he is necessarily that way, but just that he might be.
                            Maybe you already know that, but you seem like an optimistic guy so I didn't want you to get surprised. I don't know.

                            • Ryyi23
                              Ryyi23  7 days back

                              Adam seems to be ignoring how incredibly important presentation is when it comes to personal health.

                              • Duncan
                                Duncan  1 weeks back

                                Adam ruins everything... He touches... Especially his own hair.

                                • Krissy Ojos Azules Profundos

                                  The perfect man. 💍

                                  • prajwal g
                                    prajwal g  1 weeks back

                                    I like how Dr Mike has still not followed Adam's Twitter profile

                                    • Dajiana Burroughs
                                      Dajiana Burroughs  1 weeks back

                                      you are so nice

                                      • L Duncan
                                        L Duncan  1 weeks back

                                        Dr. Mike, you are a scholar & a gentleman. Thank you for being so delightfully earnest.

                                        • KatieLiz
                                          KatieLiz  1 weeks back

                                          I am an oncology certified nurse and work in radiology. I was very upset by this episode and stopped watching Adams show as a result. I highly doubt the doctor they interviewed put her seal of approval on the FINAL cut of this episode, either that, or she was a bit clouded by the excitement of being on TV. Thank you for your CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, and especially for your explanation of how evidence based practice works! Love your videos. Keep them coming.

                                          • N R
                                            N R  1 weeks back

                                            So let me see if I understand this correctly we patients have to pay for all these redundancies in and inaccuracies in paperwork

                                            • Jumbledguts
                                              Jumbledguts  1 weeks back

                                              I have pretty much no respect for Adam Ruins Everything because he is biased, oversimplified, and he spreads misinformation. The herpes episode brought all the nasty people out to dating sites screaming "you need to love my scores because everyone secretly has herpes like me!"

                                              ARE is a damn joke. This guy is 100% amazing as an individual and a medical professional.

                                              • The212b
                                                The212b  2 weeks back

                                                Wow! This really shows who Doctor Mike and Adam really are. Adam gives a needlessly passive-aggressive tweet that would irritate even the calmest of people and that aggression washes right off Doctor Mike's back. Bravo! I have a lot to learn about emotional intelligence from you.

                                                • Manel Jaballah
                                                  Manel Jaballah  2 weeks back

                                                  It's a whole other level of maturity when a public criticism on Twitter is considered an exciting opportunity for an informative debate.

                                                  • Jason Tiver
                                                    Jason Tiver  2 weeks back

                                                    Adam Conover goes into every TV show he films with a level of bias. Afterall his show is called "Adam Ruins Everything". He doesn't go into a show with the subject he's so called investigating to find what their doing right. I used to watch his show but I gave it up. It's just to one sided.

                                                    • Brandi Bastian
                                                      Brandi Bastian  2 weeks back

                                                      adam is a dick :)

                                                      • Brandi Bastian
                                                        Brandi Bastian  2 weeks back

                                                        some of the shows i've watched you watch i have seen before but not most of them... ... ...THIS one yep, & house yep!

                                                        • meghanne hemphill
                                                          meghanne hemphill  2 weeks back

                                                          We need more humans like Dr. Mike!

                                                          • Mirkatte World
                                                            Mirkatte World  2 weeks back

                                                            Dr. Mike! I work in CME & love your channel! <3

                                                            • Birdman PB
                                                              Birdman PB  2 weeks back

                                                              The medical billing system is so jacked up. When my wife was pregnant we went in for a (perceived) emergency , since baby wasn't moving and hadn't in several hours. Wife is crying and scared. And all she wanted was them to confirm a heartbeat. Instead, first thing they ask for after getting her in the room is her insurance card. 20 minutes later they finally came in.

                                                              • gwnfan
                                                                gwnfan  2 weeks back

                                                                Dr. Mike, there is a DO in Grand Rapids, MI who is very similar to you in demeanor and geniality. Oh, yea, and he is a D.O. as well! You and Brian Wilder, D.O. should do a workout video together where you discuss basic fitness, injury, recovery, and lifestyle fitness choices!

                                                                • William Howard
                                                                  William Howard  2 weeks back

                                                                  This is part of why I love Doctor Mike, he takes criticism well, and then explains his processes and clarifys on the points he made and information he has shared.. and in the process teaches us about ourselves and each other and how to not make a drama out of things... if only more people were like him...

                                                                  • P.J. Duerbeck
                                                                    P.J. Duerbeck  2 weeks back

                                                                    I don't have an opinion of mammograms either way. I found 3 of my 4 benign lumps when I was 16. A womens' hands are the best tools to find abnormalities as a first line of discovery. Now that I have a history of lumps, mammograms will be part of the rest of my life for the ones I can't feel. Know yourself and your body. You know what is right and what is off.

                                                                    • Destiel_is_my_angel
                                                                      Destiel_is_my_angel  2 weeks back

                                                                      When I watched that video, I was terrified of mammograms.
                                                                      I believe Dr Mike is correct with the tone and telling of the episode could be better.

                                                                      • Noiknowscooking101
                                                                        Noiknowscooking101  3 weeks back

                                                                        I am not a fan of Adam anymore, this is because his points and facts aren't 100% factual. They are very biased and not fully in depth and aimed to his bias.

                                                                        • Levent Taskan
                                                                          Levent Taskan  3 weeks back

                                                                          'I', 'don't' and 'know' are three words Adam needs to use more often. In that order.

                                                                          Doc Mike: I believe noone is above criticism.
                                                                          Haven't you heard Doc? Adam Connover is above criticism. 😂

                                                                          • Neil Stone
                                                                            Neil Stone  3 weeks back

                                                                            You moved the goal post though he was specifically talking about the business practice any other factors is moving the goal post you didn't focus on the specific topic

                                                                            • Joanna Haney
                                                                              Joanna Haney  3 weeks back

                                                                              I believe that both Mike and Adam have the best intentions. They just come at it from different angles. My suggestion would be a collaboration video on a topic they are both passionate about.

                                                                              • mister.nimoe
                                                                                mister.nimoe  3 weeks back

                                                                                Pay your taxes for the hospitals.
                                                                                - A tax dodger.

                                                                                • Ted Phillips
                                                                                  Ted Phillips  3 weeks back

                                                                                  Please do not use "thump" music - it can affect heart rate. Why do you believe barely audible background sound is necessary ? For those of us with good hearing, it is annoying, like a buzzing insect.

                                                                                  • ellisv75
                                                                                    ellisv75  3 weeks back

                                                                                    They also need to cover the cost of having medicare patients ie cost shifting, information asymmetry, adverse selection and technology advancements that relate very much to the pay for service model. The US adopts new treatments and purchases equipment at about 4 times the rate per capita. Every time you "plan" your medical treatment so it coincides to reach your maximum out of pocket you drive up premiums. At the end of the day the formula is cost + profit = price .....if you save on your price it will be made up in higher deductibles or higher rates.

                                                                                    • John McDonough
                                                                                      John McDonough  3 weeks back

                                                                                      Since you're on about hospitals, I want to share a little about my experience with the VA hospital in San Francisco. I had two knee replacement surgeries. I had not been walking for a couple of years because of arthritic pain. I came out of that experience wishing I had two more knees to get done! Talk about getting my ego stoked! All this super expensive equipment, all these dedicated, well trained specialists, all focused of li'll ol' me and at every turn actually thanking me "Thank you for your service." I found everyone wonderfully humored and even laughing at my bad jokes. As for the cost? Excuse the descent into politics but I really think Americans need to understand: VA hospital--absolutely free. Yea Socialism! ---John McDonough

                                                                                      • John McDonough
                                                                                        John McDonough  3 weeks back

                                                                                        Oh, I need to add, the surgeries were completely successful and I'm delighted with the results.

                                                                                    • C Triggered
                                                                                      C Triggered  3 weeks back

                                                                                      Even non-profit hospitals are just expensive as for profit hospitals. So Dr. Mike is right here, it’s not solely based on profiteering, but is based on an accumulation of things that all deserve scrutiny.

                                                                                      Adam doesn’t seem to be taking Dr. Mike’s criticism’s as seriously as Dr. Mike is taking Adam’s. Either Adam watched Dr. Mike’s video and wrote his responses after or he watched it with his own biases getting in the way. Adam is claiming Dr. Mike said and claimed many things that Dr. Mike clearly did not say. I just watched the video again to confirm these things. Very frustrating and unprofessional of Adam.

                                                                                      “Mike claims that hospitals aren’t in it for the money....” um no he didn’t claim that. Dr. Mike said “hospitals need to exist, so hospitals needs to make a profit in order to exist.”

                                                                                      By rejecting Dr. Mike’s criticism as a whole, it seems Adam didn’t watch Dr. Mike’s video, he was given bullets points by his team on what Dr. Mike critiqued. Dr. Mike explained so clearly how Adam’s timeline of discussing mammograms could cause women to avoid them. It was the timeline, not the content. If you watch Dr. Mike’s video you can clearly hear him explain these things.

                                                                                      I watch both Adam and Dr. Mike and enjoy both of their content so I hope my own biases don’t get in the way. I saw Adam’s segment first, then Dr. Mike’s. I agree with so many of Adam’s points made in his segment and agree it harmed the segment by being limited to only 6 or 8 minutes. This is a topic that can be discussed for hours so it’s difficult to reduce it to such a short amount of time.

                                                                                      • keine031
                                                                                        keine031  3 weeks back

                                                                                        Man, fuck that Adam guy

                                                                                        • scotcheggable
                                                                                          scotcheggable  3 weeks back

                                                                                          It's kinda sad to watch Mike earnestly respond to Adam who is clearly replying in bad faith.

                                                                                          • Nachie
                                                                                            Nachie  3 weeks back

                                                                                            So this video is a reaction of a reaction to a reaction video.


                                                                                            • psmtz
                                                                                              psmtz  3 weeks back

                                                                                              There is no reasoning with SJWs. They are totalitarian fanatics who have no problem murdering anyone who disagrees with them.

                                                                                              • Ian Nelson
                                                                                                Ian Nelson  3 weeks back

                                                                                                That was a surprisingly bitchy response from Adam conover.